Made by one player, for the rest of us

About WoW Forever Builder

Hi, I'm Rory. I built this because I wanted it to exist, and nobody else was going to make it the way I wanted it.

Why I built it

When Forever was announced I did what everyone did: opened six tabs, a spreadsheet and a Discord, and tried to work out what my first character should be. Half the talent calculators were missing ranks. The ones with ranks had no Classic text to compare against. Dungeon pages listed bosses but not the quests you need to grab before you zone in, which is the thing you actually forget. I kept thinking "someone should put all of this in one place and make it work on a phone in the login queue." So I did.

This site is the tool I wanted at the character screen: every talent, every rank, the Classic tooltip right beside it, builds you can load and change, and the world stuff I keep looking up. It is free and there is no account. Your builds save in your own browser and you share them with a link.

What's actually here

Where the numbers come from

Talent, spellbook, racial and Legacy data comes from the Talents Forever dataset, which is read from the game client and published under a Creative Commons licence. I normalise it, check it against Blizzard's development notes, and print the client build and snapshot date on every page so you know how fresh it is. Dungeon, quest and item records come from the beta and launch clients and from loot logs I could trace back to a tooltip. The full list with licences is on the data and sources page. None of it is Blizzard-verified, and a hotfix can change a number before my snapshot does. When that happens the changelog says what I fixed.

Money

The site costs me hosting and evenings. It may show ads to cover the hosting. Ads never change which data is shown or how builds are ordered, and I will never put the builder behind a login or a paywall.

Found something wrong?

Tell me. A wrong rank, a missing quest, a dead link, a build you think is better than mine. The contact page says what to include so I can fix it fast, and I credit people who send corrections.

The legal bit

World of Warcraft, World of Warcraft: Forever, Warcraft and Blizzard Entertainment are trademarks or registered trademarks of Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. Spell names, icons, screenshots and tooltip text are Blizzard's and appear here for reference. WoW Forever Builder is a fan project and is not affiliated with or endorsed by Blizzard.

See you in the Riverglades.