Rogue · Subtlety · row 3

Initiative

Changed from Classic3 ranks
Initiative
Rank 3/3Subtlety
Requires 10 points in Subtlety Talents
Gives you a 100% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.

Every rank of Initiative

RankEffectSource
1Gives you a 33% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.client
2Gives you a 67% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.client
3Gives you a 100% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.client

Requirements and position

  • Tree: Subtlety, row 3, column 1. Needs 10 points in Subtlety first. The earliest you can finish all 3 ranks is level 22 if you put every point into this tree.
  • Competes with: Premeditation, Serrated Blades in the same row.

Classic comparison

Classic 1.12WoW Forever
NameInitiativeInitiative
PositionSubtlety row 3, col 1Subtlety row 3, col 1
Ranks33
Rank 1 textGives you a 25% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.Gives you a 33% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.

Spells this talent affects

Builds that take Initiative

Questions players ask

Where is Initiative in the Rogue talent tree?
Subtlety tree, row 3, column 1. You need 10 points spent in Subtlety before you can learn it.
Is Initiative new in WoW Forever?
Initiative existed in Classic (Subtlety row 3, 3 ranks). In Forever it was changed: Classic read "Gives you a 25% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.".

Snapshot 2026-11-03, client 1.60.1.70753.