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Rogue · Subtlety · row 3

Premeditation

Changed from Classic1 rankActive abilityHotfix 2026-11-02
Premeditation
Rank 1/1Subtlety
20 yd range | Instant | 2 min cooldown
Requires 10 points in Subtlety Talents
Adds 2 Combo Points to your target. You must add to or use those combo points within 20 sec or the combo points are lost.

Every rank of Premeditation

RankEffectSource
1Adds 2 Combo Points to your target. You must add to or use those combo points within 20 sec or the combo points are lost.client

Requirements and position

  • Tree: Subtlety, row 3, column 2. Needs 10 points in Subtlety first. The earliest you can finish all 1 rank is level 20 if you put every point into this tree.
  • Competes with: Initiative, Serrated Blades in the same row.

Classic comparison

Classic 1.12WoW Forever
NamePremeditationPremeditation
PositionSubtlety row 7, col 2Subtlety row 3, col 2
Ranks11
Rank 1 textWhen used, adds 2 combo points to your target. You must add to or use those combo points within 10 sec or the combo points are lost.Adds 2 Combo Points to your target. You must add to or use those combo points within 20 sec or the combo points are lost.

no longer requires Preparation, no longer requires Stealth (Classic did)

Builds that take Premeditation

Questions players ask

Where is Premeditation in the Rogue talent tree?
Subtlety tree, row 3, column 2. You need 10 points spent in Subtlety before you can learn it.
Is Premeditation new in WoW Forever?
Premeditation existed in Classic (Subtlety row 7, 1 ranks). In Forever it was changed: Classic read "When used, adds 2 combo points to your target. You must add to or use those combo points within 10 sec or the combo points are lost.".

Snapshot 2026-11-03, client 1.60.1.70753.